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can i use an electric continuous hinge with electric latch retraction on an exit device
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Solenoid on Chexit pulls back and immediately lets go and alarm goes off with red solid light.
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The following could cause the Chexit solenoid ( devices shipped prior to 8-24-2015) pulls in then drop out with no alarm. Mechanical adjustment such as vertical rods. Disconnect t...:
Can Von Duprin QEL/EL and CX be in the same device?
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You can not use these options together on the same device per the following reasons: QEL/EL device retracts the latch bolt of the exit device allowing entry. CX (Chexit) device ...:
What wire gauge and run is recommended for Von Duprin electric latch retraction EL device?
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Has the Monarch 19 ever had electric latch retraction?
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Electric Latch Retraction(ELR) option for the 19 Series was discontinued in December of 2006.:
Why would the horn sound when the solenoid tries to engage on a Von Duprin Chexit device?
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Make sure the proper power supply (PS873 or PS914) and proper gauge and run wire is used for Chexit devices shipped prior to 8-24-2015 with solenoid driven. Related Solution: What wire&n...:
Where do I install my Auxiliary Fire Latch (AFL) in a Less Bottom Rod, Fire Rated (LBR-F) exit device?
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Installation should be 6" from bottom of the door. See attached templates as reference. T-5494 for HM Doors W-5494 for Wood Doors:
Why does the auto operator not open the door when installed with a Chexit?
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Chexits are NOT electric latch retraction devices, therefore the latch will not retract and allow the opener to swing the door open. Chexits block and unblock the latch. In order for a Ch...:
What gauge wire is needed for CX red and black power wires?
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For Product Shipped prior to 8-24-2015 with solenoid and EPT or Door Loops: a. 0-100 ft, use #14 Gauge Wire ...:
Does the Von Duprin E996L trim require the NL drive screw be installed into the device to function properly?
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Von Duprin 98/99 NL drive screw is located in back of the 98/99 center case assembly. NL drive screw should be left in with trim lock slide plate in up position in the 98/99 exit device with E99...:
Can the EL or QEL conversion kit be used on the old Von Duprin 33/35 exit device?
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Current EL and QEL baseplate conversion kits can be used on all latching types of the 33/35 series (non "A" version which were manufactured prior to 2003). At one time, the obsolete black EL ...:
What are the differences between the Von Duprin 47 and 48 latch assemblies?
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The following list explains the differences between the Von Duprin 47 and 48 latch assemblies.The 47 top latche has 5/8" throw latchbolt.The 48 top latch had 3/4" throw latchbolt for devices shippe...:
Does the Chexit device retract the latch bolt?
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The Von Duprin Chexit device does not have electric latch retraction feature.:
What is the difference between LR and PL latches on Von Duprin 8827 exit devices?
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ES (electric strike) latch is only used with the 8827 less bottom rod on a non fire rated exit device with a 6111 electric strike.:
How do I wire an EL device to normally hold open the latch and release it during a fire alarm?
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Use a normally closed fire alarm as the input to the power supply option board (PS873-2 or PS914-2RS), this will hold the latch retracted. During a fire alarm, the contact will open, dropping...:
Can doors be prepared for raceways in the factory?
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Raceway availability: Optional factory installed raceways are available in doors but are not available in frames. Preparation Info: Steelcraft installs a flexible 3/4" ID steel...:
How do I add mechanical dogging to my Von Duprin EL device?
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HD-EL (Hex Dogging Electric Latch Retraction) solenoid and plunger can be replaced with standard EL solenoid and plunger on non fire rated exit devices, but this should not be used on a daily basi...:
What hinges can be used on tornado doors?
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The following hinges are available on Paladin series doors and frames: Butt hinges - 4 1/2" or 5" ball bearing type either standard or heavy duty Continuous hinges - full ...:
Is EL an option on WS98/9927 Windstorm devices?
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The EL option is not available with WS98/99 series exit devices. :
What is the difference between Von Duprin EL and E functions?
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Application is based on how the door will be used. Please contact Product Support at 877-671-7011 to discuss your application and select the correct device for your opening.:
What is the device backset when using a 1790 with a 6111 strike?
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The Von Duprin 6111 electric strike would work with DOM 1790 device on medium style doors Centerline of the 1790 device mounting screws are located 1 11/16" from face of stop. See d...:
What is needed to keep the EL device retracted all day?
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To keep the Von Duprin electric latch retraction EL or QELA exit device dogged (retracted) all day, have your access control, Key pad, key switch, fire alarm contact or any other signals ...:
Why would the 996L trim not lock or unlock when installed with 98 or 99EO?
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The 98/99 rim and vertical rod exit devices are shipped with NL drive screw to function as a Night Latch. To convert the device to Class Room, remove the NL Drive Screw on 98/99 center case ass...:
How do you test a Falcon 24 or 25 Series EL solenoid?
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The resistance readings for a Falcon 24 or 25 Series EL solenoid should read;Green to Yellow = Pull Coil, should measure between 1 and 2 ohms of resistance. Green to Orange = Hold Coil, s...:
Why will 912L not retract the latch bolt all the way?
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There are a few things to check in the 912L trim is not retracting the latch as expected. If the 912L was shipped after February 28, 2011, Check the installation ins...:
What would keep the vertical rod exit devices top latch from being held retracted in the open position?
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Following exit devices 2227/F, 33/3527A/F, 33/3547A/48A/F, 98/9927/F and 98/9947/48/F have similar rod adjustment procedures. All top latches control the bottom latch assemblies. When do...:
What is the difference between Panic Hardware and Fire Exit Hardware?
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The most obvious difference (in the device) is the lack of mechanical dogging on a Fire Rated Device. There are some internal parts that may be different and the method it is secured to the d...:
How does the latch bolt retract on the Von Duprin XP device?
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The latch bolt on an XP98/99 exit device does not retract. The latch bolt will release and pivot out of the way when push bar is depressed or out side trim is activated.:
What is the standard downsizing for a door leaf when using continuous hinges?
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Doors require special downsizing for continuous hinges. The amount of downsizing depends on the hinge specified (manufacturer and type) and the hinge application (Full Mortise versus Full Surface v...:
What are ANSI BHMA hardware grades?
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The American National Standards Institute (ANSI) and Builders Hardware Manufacturers Association (BHMA) have developed durability, strength and performance standards for every type of door hardware...:
How do I change the function of the Von Duprin 7500 mortise lock from Lever ( classroom ) to NL ( night latch )?
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To convert the Von Duprin 9975L to 9975NL exit function follow these steps (Note: the mortise lock is shipped as Night Latch from the factory): Turn the NL screw on 7500 mortise lock counter clo...:
Does Ives offer a continuous hinge or pivot for lead lined doors?
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Ives does not offer a continuous hinge designed specifically for lead lined doors. Standard hinges may work if the hinge and mounting hardware do not penetrate the lead lining in the door.&nb...:
Is a Von Duprin or Falcon EL device available in 12V?
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Electric latch retraction, EL, devices are only available in 24VDC. (Note: The EL option for 24/25 series and related service parts have been discontinued as of 7/25/2022):
Will a key from pull side retract the Chexit device latchbolt when armed?
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CX98/9975 mortise devices will retract the latch bolt when the key is used on the pull side of the door.:
Does Von Duprin have an exit device that is pneumatic?
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The Von Duprin Pneumatic or "PN" device was designed for Intrinsically Safe Class 1, Division 1 applications.The device does not have a specific listing or certification pertaining to hazardous loc...:
Can the Von Duprin WS98/9927 exit device be operated as Night Latch function?
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We do not offer a true night latch, storeroom or ANSI "03" function with this device. (Entrance by trim when latchbolt is retracted by key. Key removable only when locked.) This function would da...:
What electric strikes are available for Von Duprin rim exit devices?
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The 22, 33/35A and 98/99 rim exit devices: The 6111 is the most common electric strike to be used with these devices 6112 and 6113 electric strikes also could be used The 6300 surface mount el...:
Can the Von Duprin EL option be added to any existing 98/99 device?
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The Von Duprin EL option can be added to any existing 33A/35A, 98/99 series exit devices. :
What is the standard gap between a pair of doors hung with continuous hinges?
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The standard gap between a pair of doors will be 3/16" when used with a Steelcraft "Z" astragal. If a wide inactive leaf is requested (no astragal) the gap between the doors will be...:
Is there a Von Duprin conversion kit to change mechanical to electric latch retraction EL in the field?
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Followings are the list of the electric latch retraction EL/HDEL (hex dogging), QEL (quiet) kits: 114317-00 QELA Mod. Conv. Kit 040061-00 QELA Mod. Conv. Kit...:
Can an EL device be ordered Fail Secure?
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This is not possible as an EL device is an electric latch retraction and requires power to unlock the door thus only available in Fail Secure.:
Is the Von Duprin 6111 electric strike compatible with Von Duprin XP98/99 rim exit device?
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This is not a recommended application as the electric strike does not have the same holding force as the XP98/99 rim exit device. Typically the XP device will withstand a higher force than electr...:
Can the Von Duprin exit alarm ALK and electric latch retraction QEL or EL device be in the same device?
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No, Von Duprin exit alarm ALK and electric latch retraction QEL or EL are installed in the same location and can't be ordered together with the same device.:
Why is the electric E996L-FSE trim used with a Chexit CX99 exit device?
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The E996L-FSE trim is needed if the application requires fail-secure operation from the trim side of the opening. When power is out on Chexit device, E996L-FSE trim will remain locked to ...:
Does the QEL retract the latch bolt and the pushpad?
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Yes the Von Duprin QEL exit device retracts the latch bolt and pushpad. Pushpad and latch bolt stay retracted as long as power is applied to the QEL exit device. :
Can you put an EL on a Von Duprin 22 device?
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Von Duprin 22 series are not available with electric latch retraction EL option. 22 series are the economy device and are only available with RX, LX and exit alarm ALK. EL option is only availa...:
Why doesn't full rotation of the AD or CO Series Exit Trim (993) outside lever fully retract the Von Duprin 98/99 Exit Device latch?
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- AD Series and CO series products require that the Night Latch (NL) screw is installed in the exit device. Be sure this screw is installed- Exit hardware and strike must be properly mounted ...:
Does the Von Duprin 6121 electric strike work with the Von Duprin XP exit device?
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Von Duprin does not recommend using XP98/99 devices with any electric strike. Von Duprin recommends using the standard 98/99 rim device. :
Is there an EL conversion kit for the Falcon 2390 exit device?
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There is no EL conversion kit for a 2390, the device will need to be replaced.:
Why is my latch not retracting when I depress the push pad on an XP98/99 device?
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Pushing on the push bar or activating the EL/QEL or the trim on Von Duprin XP98/99 exit device does not retract the latch, it releases the latch only. Door must be pushed or pulled when device o...:
CX will not arm. Red light on solid waits 10 sec, light goes out and cycle repeats
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Inadequate power or wrong gauge wire is used. The inrush current demand by CX will overload and shutdown the power supply if undersized. You must use the Von Duprin PS873 or...:
Where is the Fire Label located on a door and a frame?
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Fire labels (UL, ITS/WHI or FM) are located as follows: Butt Hinges and Pivots: On the doors the fire label is located on the hinge edge between the top and 2nd hinge preparation. On the fram...:
What power supply is needed for EL devices?
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You can use a Von Duprin PS914 power supply with any of the following option boards depending on the application. 900-2RS board will power 1 or 2 devices that do not require timing from pow...:
Can the 5100 electric strike be used with a mortise exit device?
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The 5100 electric strikes are for use with cylindrical locks only. Instead use the following:6211 electric strike is used with mortise lock without deadbolt on a new single door, hollow ...:
Is there a conversion kit to add Electronic Dogging (ED) or Electric Latch Retraction (EL) to a 1690 or 1790 in the field?
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There is no conversion kit to add EL or ED to an existing 1690 or 1790 series device. All of the components are built into the device, since the device does not have a separate base...: